Hate to agree with you. But Foresight indeed got worseron many points. I've been involved with some directions it took for a while and also have been working on some issues, but once I found out that fixing those issues was not the main goal. I think your review is completely fair. Foresights team problem is that it got blind from working on some issues while totally loosing the point for simple user. You totally got the core problem- it is a highly experimental distribution but nothing a noob should try - but the team continues to claim the opposit no matter what experiences the users make. They need to get some reality. About PackageKit. Its a joined effort to create a new installer GUI for a lot of distributions but its far from end user ready. Your GIMP story: GIMP used to be part of the default install and also the philosophy was to give the user most of the software a user might want. Now they like to reduce size of the ISOs - but you cant have both. Foresight was VERY promising and still some underlying technology is nice. But the organisation and decisions could not be more worse than it had been - and also led many of its users to continuing problems. The core mistake was to start this big Foresight 2.0 shot without having the resources to make sure it will be better than any previous releases. From my insight I presume Foresight wont get any better for many months to come. I hope it will get on track and I will be willing to help it doing so if the team starts reflect on what the outcome of its actions were. The people working on Foresight are very talented technically but fail to connect to the simple user. Sad but true.